CIC Data Base Inquiry
Reference No. 113
1998-2001 Oldsmobile Intrigue
R&I Deck Lid Spoiler
  Date of Request: March 2001
Date Posted: May 5, 2001
Update: June 11, 2001

CIC Reference No. 113
Data Providers: Mitchell International, ADP Claims Solutions Group, Motor Information Services/CCC Information Systems
Original Time Allowance: 0.4 (Mitchell and Motor)
Original Labor Note: Includes time to drill holes (Mitchell only)

Issue: Time allowance is not realistic for drill time: Documented steps involved with this operation.
  1. Removing the five attaching nuts.
  2. Remove the wire harness (third tail lamp) from spoiler to deck lid.
  3. Fabricate template for 8 mounting holes that are three different size and configurations.
    • Two outer oval holes for the spoiler alignment studs.
    • Two outer 5mm bolt holes
    • Two outer 10mm bolt holes
    • One center 10 mm bolt hole
    • One center oval wire harness hole to accommodate harness grommet.
  4. Drill 8 holes that are three different size and configuration.
  5. Replace E-coat and rustproof drilled area.
  6. Vacuum metal shavings produced by the drilling/filing process
  7. Clean and retape adhesive sealer at center section or spoiler.
  8. Install and align spoiler.
As the average technician can visualize, this is not just drilling 8 holes. There are three different size and shapes of holes for this operation along with the complexity of fabricating a template. If the template is not properly fabricated the spoiler will not align properly. The industry respectfully requests a change in the allowed time that realistically reflects what needs to be done.

Response:
  • Motor/CCC –Allows 0.4, but time does not include "drill time." Drilling is a non-included operation.
  • ADP –Drilling is not included in the operations nor is the wiring harness or restoration of E-Coat. ADP provides Exlusions of Labor in the ADP Reference manual on pages 50-52.
  • Mitchell – Increased labor allowance 0.2hrs. Application of anti-corrosion rust resistant materials, clean vehicle to pre-accident condition and clean and retape of adhesive are not included operations.
Results/Change:
Mitchell June 11, 2001 Increased labor allowance 0.2hrs. Application of anti-corrosion rust resistant materials, clean vehicle to pre-accident condition and clean and retape of adhesive are not included operations.
Motor March 2001 Adding drill time makes the time allowance realistic
ADP March 15, 2001 Drilling is not included in the operations nor is the wiring harness or restoration of E-Coat. ADP provides Exlusions of Labor in the ADP Reference manual on pages 50-52.

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