CIC Data Base Inquiry
Reference No. 131
1996-2000 Toyota Rav 4 (4dr)
R&R “rear body sill panel” (center panel inside of tail gate, # 58371-42011)

R&R “rear body inner panel” (closure panel inside of center panel, # 57659-42010)

Date of Inquiry:            December 5, 2001

Posted to Website:        August 6, 2003

Time allowance:            Mitchell                        5.5 (center sill panel, outer)

                                                                        No time listed (inner sill panel)

                                    Labor text note:            None               

                                    Motor/CCC                 3.5 (center sill panel, outer)

                                                                        2.5 (inner sill panel)

                                    Labor text note:            # Labor: After all necessary bolted on 

                                                                        parts are removed.                     

                                    ADP                            3.5 (center sill panel, outer)

                                                                        3.9 (inner sill panel)

Note: In the process of replacing the outer and inner panels for this vehicle it was noted that there are other labor operations/steps that have not been taken into consideration. To facilitate the replacement of the “rear outer sill panel,” both left and right end “reinforcements” (# 58375-42010 and #58376-42010) must be removed for access. To replace the sill panel in its entirety (not a partial section), the lower pillar “end extensions” (#61625-42010 and # 61626-42010) require removal. It should be understood that the “rear sill panel” is inboard of these two other end panels, requiring the removal of the two end pieces that restrict access to the back sill panel spot welds.

To replace the “rear body inner panel,” the outer panel must first be removed which require all of the above operational steps. Then, to separate the rear body inner panel from the vehicle floor pan, both left and right rail “side member extensions” (# 57615-42901 # 57616-42902) require separation to facilitate removal of inner panel. Where the rear inner panel attached to the left and right frame rail, the design of the inner panel is oddly configured requiring sandwiched between the floor panel and the frame rail.

Issue:

¨       Motor/CCC

1.       Unrealistic time allowance

¨       Mitchell

1.       Unrealistic time allowance

¨       ADP

1.       Unrealistic time allowance

Response:

¨       Mitchell

            Pending

¨       ADP (quoted)

            “Our decision is to provide full replacement time for the rear body sill panel.  We could not find enough time improvement to warrant partialing this panel.   The full time ADP provides for the Rear Body Sill Panel is now 9.0 hours.  The time to replace the Rear Body Sill Panel & the Rear Body Inner Panel which attaches to the floor pan is now 17.2 hours for the combination of both.  These times also include the R & I of all bolted parts. 

Motor/CCC

      Motor Information System (ARM8413) - Applied changes to labor and footnotes Toyota repair manual has a cut and join location regarding these parts

Suggestion:

¨       Mitchell

1.       Consider a “time study” labor review

¨       Motor 

1.       Consider a “time study” labor review

¨       ADP

1.       Consider a “time study” labor review

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